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Psychic 'Creeped Out' By Loughner In 2005 1-10-2011

Scott Davis, Content Creator, KPHO CBS5 News
CHANDLER, Ariz.Psychic Mary Ann Morgan used to see clients in private homes or hotel conference rooms. "Never again after that guy," she told CBS 5 News in an exclusive interview.
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In August 2005, Morgan was holding appointments at a Chandler hotel. She said her last client for the day was a young man named Jared Loughner. She didn't know he was just 16 at the time.
"He creeped me out," she said. Morgan told CBS 5 News that Loughner asked her about the voices in his head. "He said to me, 'Nobody likes my ideas about things. I hear voices and I knew you would be able to relate and not make fun of me.'"
Morgan claims to have the ability to speak with spirits of the deceased. "I told him what I do is different. I hear voices that are kind and loving. They pass along loving messages to their families who are still alive."
Loughner, she said, was hearing voices telling him to take action. "I asked him, 'Did you tell the health-care people that?' He said, 'No, they would put me in an institution.'"
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Morgan said that as she was talking with Loughner, she got chills. "I saw him in an incarceration situation," she said. “I remember exactly what I asked him, I said, 'Have you been incarcerated? I see confinement. I see a jail cell.'”
According to Morgan, Laughner replied that he'd once been evaluated for depression.
Morgan's agent at the Ford/Robert Black Agency, Matt Englehart, also remembers the consultation. "Mary Ann called me afterward and wanted to meet," he said. "I was very surprised. Mary Ann's usually tough as nails and doesn't take anything from anyone. But this was the first time she actually felt very scared. Scared to the point where she decided that she didn’t want to do any more live readings."
Morgan said that from that day forward, she refused to hold psychic readings in person and now does them only by phone. "I was put into a situation with a young man that was lethal," she said. "I didn’t know for sure he was lethal at the time, but I knew he had the potential to be. I knew he could cross that line at some time."
On Saturday, a man police now identify as Jared Lee Loughner, 22, opened fire at a political rally hosted by Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people died and 14 others were wounded in Tucson.
Morgan looks back on that session five years ago and remembers, "I told him, 'I think you need to be on medication. What you’re describing sounds like schizophrenia.' I felt horrible saying that to somebody. I didn’t want to hurt him. I felt sorry for him.” She also said she warned him “to be very careful of [his] choices.’
In addition to talking with Englehart, Morgan has been in touch with law enforcement. She blocked his phone number and refused to answer his calls and e-mails, which she said continued for months after the reading.
"He changed my life forever, within minutes of meeting him," she said.

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